tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3489069085436219130.post3537535594891828825..comments2023-05-05T00:51:16.597-07:00Comments on douglangsdcpoetryblog: Bibliographydouglanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00045305196252862765noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3489069085436219130.post-55960445827095397432007-08-24T18:38:00.000-07:002007-08-24T18:38:00.000-07:00Michael, you make a very good case here. I knew t...Michael, you make a very good case here. I knew that Bruce was around DC for a while before he moved to New York, but I had not realized the extent of his involvement. I do see the argument for his inclusion. My own subjective view of Bruce is different. From the time I first met him in New York (through you), Bruce seemed to me to be very invested in his identification with New York, so I've always thought of him as a New York poet, or, as an East Coast poet (in relation to the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poetry phenomenon).<BR/><BR/>One thing I intend to do is include a thread in this blog to recognize those poets who have had a particular relationship with the DC scene -- through repeated visits, readings, friendships and so on, from Tom Raworth, Ted Greenwald and Ray DiPalma to Anselm Berrigan and Lisa Jarnot, to pick the most obvious examples that come to my mind. Bruce is another primary member of that group, and most likely the one with whom I'll begin, given his history in DC as well as with DC. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment -- I'm hoping for (and depending on) just this kind of response, to get a clearer, or better, or more diverse view of the history of alternativ poetry in Washington.douglanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00045305196252862765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3489069085436219130.post-54065835526103333782007-08-22T08:26:00.000-07:002007-08-22T08:26:00.000-07:00Doug, Bruce Andrews was part of the DC poetry scen...Doug, Bruce Andrews was part of the DC poetry scene before you arrived. He was living I believe in College Park (if I remember correctly his father was the president of the U. of Maryland, or maybe just head of a department there?) and I believe was getting his Masters at the U. of Maryland as well. I met him in 1970 I believe. he had just had, or was about to have, a poem published in The Paris Review. We met at the Community Book Store on P Street and started right in arguing about "new jazz" and poetry. He was already an advocate of what became "Language poetry" (which I was familiar with from Ray DiPalma's early work as well as Robert Grenier's, both of whom I knew at the U. of Iowa in the 1960s), and was extremely articulate on the subject, influencing my own thinking on it. He went through my poems and found many early ones in that mode, some of which were subsequently published in "language" centered little mags often on Bruce's recommendation. He left DC around '72 for Harvard for his PhD (or maybe he got his BA at Maryland and his Masters at Harvard). At any rate, he was around when we started Mass Transit and came a few times and was I'm sure an influence on not only my thinking, but others as well as in DC, and so for me he is a part of DC poetry history.Lallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595noreply@blogger.com